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botmaker
#965 Posted : Tuesday, January 5, 2016 12:04:40 PM(UTC)

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update V117.25:
- compiled with latest HR
- ignoring speed=true settings
- maybe a little fix for sync issues

@all you know that i ignore all bugreports coming without a silverlog?

@er009 i need the silverlog of that freeze
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#967 Posted : Tuesday, January 5, 2016 2:01:48 PM(UTC)

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botmaker;34388 wrote:
update V117.25:
- compiled with latest HR
- ignoring speed=true settings
- maybe a little fix for sync issues

@all you know that i ignore all bugreports coming without a silverlog?

@er009 i need the silverlog of that freeze


Botmaker

I encountered the problem with pebler (u seen the log) with speed = false. also the sludge belcher thing who used to only happen with speed on true, happens with speed on false aswell now.

I dont think many people set speed to true, since the default settings come with speed = false, and also ALL blackOak file-settings have speed to false allready.,

Imo ignoring speed=true doesnt do much for the problems encountered. Because they happen with speed on false.
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#966 Posted : Tuesday, January 5, 2016 5:31:38 PM(UTC)
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botmaker;34388 wrote:
update V117.25:
- compiled with latest HR
- ignoring speed=true settings
- maybe a little fix for sync issues

@all you know that i ignore all bugreports coming without a silverlog?

@er009 i need the silverlog of that freeze

Downloaded from the first page link and i got this:
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#968 Posted : Tuesday, January 5, 2016 6:11:36 PM(UTC)

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Dre;34392 wrote:
I dont think many people set speed to true, since the default settings come with speed = false, and also ALL blackOak file-settings have speed to false allready.,

Imo ignoring speed=true doesnt do much for the problems encountered. Because they happen with speed on false.

I count 17 files with "speed = true" in my ASC folder. For the configs I actually use I have always made sure to turn it off though.
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#969 Posted : Tuesday, January 5, 2016 7:05:09 PM(UTC)

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sepefeets;34410 wrote:
I count 17 files with "speed = true" in my ASC folder. For the configs I actually use I have always made sure to turn it off though.


Pretty sure blackoak changed them all with his latest version that time but ok I might be wrong. Must have did it myself then.

Still doesn't fix my issue with dark pebler or sludge because my speed is always on false anyway
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#970 Posted : Wednesday, January 6, 2016 1:13:43 PM(UTC)

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@all avoid using cards like tracking and discover-effects... HR needs a fix (it will allways select the first card, without using my ai)
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#971 Posted : Wednesday, January 6, 2016 10:15:42 PM(UTC)
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@botmaker I'll check it again.
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#972 Posted : Thursday, January 7, 2016 11:45:50 AM(UTC)

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update V117.3:
- fixed mistress of pain
- behaviour:Mana is now for testing, (its a tweaked control behaviour), please test that guys

@joyadmin i sended you a HR-log of the error
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#973 Posted : Thursday, January 7, 2016 1:05:55 PM(UTC)

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botmaker;34539 wrote:
update V117.3:
- fixed mistress of pain
- behaviour:Mana is now for testing, (its a tweaked control behaviour), please test that guys

@joyadmin i sended you a HR-log of the error


Can you please tell a bit more about the mana setting, I never understoot the difference between face and rush...and afraid the same will happen with mana and control
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#974 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2016 10:31:53 AM(UTC)

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Dre;34543 wrote:
Can you please tell a bit more about the mana setting, I never understoot the difference between face and rush...and afraid the same will happen with mana and control

the mana-setting is now exactly the same code for board-evaluating like control, but mana will not consider "over"-dmg (dmg which was to high for killing a minion)

rush will add a value only to strong minions on enemys side or if he has more than 4 minions on his side. so this bot is more likely to attack the enemys face.
face is even more aggressive, it will only evalue some specific minions on enemys side and gives the enemys-hp a higher value.

for a deeper look (if you can read c# ;D)
view
https://github.com/noHer...r/ai/BehaviorControl.cs
https://github.com/noHer...ster/ai/BehaviorFace.cs
https://github.com/noHer...ster/ai/BehaviorRush.cs
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https://github.com/noHer...ter/ai/BehaviourMana.cs

that are the functions, that calculate a value for every board.
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#976 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2016 11:37:30 AM(UTC)
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Hi @Botmaker Thank's for your awsome work. I have one Question about the Silverfish settings I have been struggeling with since a long time: Wich Settings affect the usage of multithreaded Sytsms the moast ? I have a 12 Core 3.33GHz Tower with Hyperthreading so 24 Threads for potential calculation. But i cant get Silverfish to use them (all). Moast of the time even weh there are like 5 minions and 6 cards in my hand it just uses one Thread 100%

Thank's for your Work !
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#975 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2016 2:24:08 PM(UTC)

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botmaker;34572 wrote:
the mana-setting is now exactly the same code for board-evaluating like control, but mana will not consider "over"-dmg (dmg which was to high for killing a minion)

rush will add a value only to strong minions on enemys side or if he has more than 4 minions on his side. so this bot is more likely to attack the enemys face.
face is even more aggressive, it will only evalue some specific minions on enemys side and gives the enemys-hp a higher value.



Thanks for the info! Can i assume "mana" is a slighty more agressive version of "control" because it will go face if it has no effective way to kill a minion? If i know this i can decide what decks i want to try out the mana setting with.
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#977 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2016 3:28:58 PM(UTC)

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all my logs have the text "HR is to fast..." above it now...

also:

bot plays nerubian egg over dark pebbler without activator in hand (settings on control, speed = false (ofc))




full log: http://pastebin.ca/3322285
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#978 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2016 3:42:56 PM(UTC)

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Silverfish still choses first card of dark pebler,after HR update 5.0.0.0 (which should fix it) it is in the log now - but its not doing it right.

Choses: 1 = Reliquary Seeker, 2 = soulfire, 3 = power overwhelming. (2 en 3 might be 3 and 2 but those cards anyway) I see the choises in the DOS window but they dont show up in the logs...

Power overwhelming needs to be the default choses in 95% anyway but surely with a nerubian egg on the board (which he choses to play over dark pebler before again)

Instead he choses the worst card of the 3.



full log: http://pastebin.ca/3322303
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#979 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2016 4:19:15 PM(UTC)

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In "rush" bot also ignores minions thaty can get rly big rly fast, such as frothing berserker. It killed eventualy when it had 9 dmg...bit to late xD can post log but there more minions like that.
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#980 Posted : Friday, January 8, 2016 6:19:30 PM(UTC)
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@botmaker

is there a option to use the Silence of Ironbeakowl only for Taunts or massive buffs?

Noticed that silver silenced a zombie chow.

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#981 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2016 8:15:44 AM(UTC)

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I use the default settings and when I use HR + silver fish stop calculate the boards and no play any cards.
I didnt have any problem some months ago with HR + silverfish but when I update to the last version of HR and SF I have a lot of problems.

I have the deafult settings and I have speed = false, but at first all works fine but when the bot play a little time for obtain some gold the bot can play because silverfish cant calculate any board.

Please help.
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#982 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2016 9:54:32 AM(UTC)
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glide93;34688 wrote:
I use the default settings and when I use HR + silver fish stop calculate the boards and no play any cards.
I didnt have any problem some months ago with HR + silverfish but when I update to the last version of HR and SF I have a lot of problems.

I have the deafult settings and I have speed = false, but at first all works fine but when the bot play a little time for obtain some gold the bot can play because silverfish cant calculate any board.

Please help.


Having the exact same problem, have you tried reinstalling HR?
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#983 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2016 10:11:27 AM(UTC)

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Gflow;34691 wrote:
Having the exact same problem, have you tried reinstalling HR?

Yes today I update the two programs to the last version, HR v 5.0.0 and SF to 117.3, and problem not fix.

P.D. I do not update the HR, I reinstall for this new version.
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#984 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2016 1:16:18 PM(UTC)
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Found a misplay - AI used corruption against flamewaker, then threw down the doomguard and attacked it anyways. 0 reason to use up the corruption.

http://pastebin.com/tKP9BgfE

The card was played on line 1019.
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