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#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 18, 2017 9:47:10 PM(UTC)
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scottbreak's Meta Decks for Vision AI


Players that are interested in running in either Casual or Ranked mode are encouraged to share results and suggestions on this thread, and report any misplays through the Debug Tool. This is the only way we are going to improve the play.

*Step by step tutorial here

*Updates
2/7/2018: I will no longer be uploading my configs, please check Ljac's and botwhat's threads for updated configs. Thanks to the hearthranger team and those that supported my work. Cheers!
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:09:47 PM(UTC)
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Many thanks for your great work!!!!
万分感谢!
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:37:52 PM(UTC)

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Okay, i have made Ravuasaur Runt files, will test them instead instead Mortal Strikes. Feel free to tag along and test them out.

Add this to your Mulligan:



Make a UNG_009.json and add this:

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#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:53:05 PM(UTC)
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Kurtka;48130 wrote:
Okay, i have made Ravuasaur Runt files, will test them instead instead Mortal Strikes. Feel free to tag along and test them out.

Add this to your Mulligan:

Make a UNG_009.json and add this:



I'll try with Ravasaur Runt subbed in for Mortal Strike and compare to current results.

*Update: I had an 81% win rate with Ravasaur Runt compared to a 86% win rate with Mortal Strike. I think either is a good selection, because they both have benefits over the other.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:25:39 PM(UTC)
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Okay so I can't afford captain greenskin right now. I have a few questions: do I need to change anything in the files you provided to reflect this? and: what do you recommend I substitute for him? how negatively will this change impact my winrate (i.e. how integral is he to the deck)?
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:27:24 PM(UTC)
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bobhelmut;48133 wrote:
Okay so I can't afford captain greenskin right now. I have a few questions: do I need to change anything in the files you provided to reflect this? and: what do you recommend I substitute for him? how negatively will this change impact my winrate (i.e. how integral is he to the deck)?

Just put in another Naga Corsair. Shouldn't have too much impact. Post your results once you have some.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:31:45 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for this Scott!
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:18:32 AM(UTC)
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scottbreak;48134 wrote:
Just put in another Naga Corsair. Shouldn't have too much impact. Post your results once you have some.


Alright, thank you very much for your hard work. I will run the bot tonight and tomorrow and I will post any relevant data I have tomorrow evening.

Do you have any interest in working on other decks, like mid-range hunter, discolock, or even semi-off-meta decks like jade druid or quest hunter?
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86% win rate on casual or ranked?
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:48:04 AM(UTC)
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yes yes im wait for this posting, thank scottbreak, thank JoyAdmin
tempostorm G2A used 2 golakka crawlers instead mortal strike or Ravasaur Runt
@Kurtka can you post full mulligan file, that hard for me copy\paste to .json
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 1:42:49 AM(UTC)
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bobhelmut;48136 wrote:
Alright, thank you very much for your hard work. I will run the bot tonight and tomorrow and I will post any relevant data I have tomorrow evening.

Do you have any interest in working on other decks, like mid-range hunter, discolock, or even semi-off-meta decks like jade druid or quest hunter?

Read OP; more decks coming.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 1:43:55 AM(UTC)
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fkeh;48137 wrote:
86% win rate on casual or ranked?

Read OP; Casual with auto-concede.
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Scott, is there any combo.json ?
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:13:34 AM(UTC)
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JuraganGameOnline;48141 wrote:
Scott, is there any combo.json ?

No, I am not using a combo file. I have spoken to Joy about this, and this is really only need for decks that require a forced combo. The bot should calculate the correct plays. Again, this is why we are asking that you use the Debug Tool to report any misplays.

*Update: I have included Joy's original Combo.json, because there seems to be an issue with the bot playing Bloodsail Raider before Arcanite Reaper. The bot also seems to be over valuing Bloodsail Raider. I have spoken to Joy about this, and will eventually create a json for the card to try and help.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:21:13 AM(UTC)
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mary7;48138 wrote:
yes yes im wait for this posting, thank scottbreak, thank JoyAdmin
tempostorm G2A used 2 golakka crawlers instead mortal strike or Ravasaur Runt
@Kurtka can you post full mulligan file, that hard for me copy\paste to .json

I saw that they are running the Golakka Crawlers, but I am not a huge fan of this, because sometimes you end up sacrificing your own pirate. Please feel free to add the text provided below to your mulligan and share you results. It is also important to check this card for misplays, and report them using the Debug Tool. I will run this for a while as well and compare stats.

*Update: 76% win rate with Golakka Cralwers. This is worse than both Mortal Strike and Ravasaur Runt.

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#21 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:16:18 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for shearing the files with us scottbreak!
I'm also interested in grinding gold, not really about getting legend rank, because I got it a couple of times myself and I know that it is only grind most of the time not really skill... That's why I think this decks will be great... maybe some of the will reach RANK 5 and that is it... No need to go further than that... that's just my opinion...

Quick Question:

When I copy paste these lines into json file while using Notepad++, I seems to be missing those dots that are present in warrior_pirate files, is that OK, or should we manually type all this in Notepad++ or it will work regarding the dots. (The dost I'm reffering to maybe to make the code more transparent, but I'm not a coder so I don't know... I presume it will work like this also.)

I opened new directory in CustomConfig named Jack Rackham(my deck name, and name of the new directory), I copy pasted json files from warrior_pirate in that new directory, After I copy pasted all your lines in the json files from warrior_pirate files.

At last, I opened deck_config.ini and deleted PirateWarrior = warrior_pirate and typed [CONFIGS] Jack Rackham = Jack Rackham


Did I do something wrong or is this the right way to set up?


Thank you very much @scottbreak!


*EDIT: One more question, what concede options are you using? Autoconcede if opponent has lethal, Autoconcede if my HP X and opp HP X or Autoconcede if bot play 18 or X turns? Or do you use something else that can be implemented in json files that I don't understand?
Again Thank you man!
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:26:26 AM(UTC)
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MarinoBog;48147 wrote:

*EDIT: One more question, what concede options are you using? Autoconcede if opponent has lethal, Autoconcede if my HP X and opp HP X or Autoconcede if bot play 18 or X turns? Or do you use something else that can be implemented in json files that I don't understand?
Again Thank you man!


In the files that he has provided the bot is going to concede if he is at 10 or more mana, and the enemy have 25 or more HP.
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Scott, what do you think if we use OR ?

"condition":"opp_hero(count(),rogue=true)>0 OR opp_hero(count(),druid=true)>0 OR opp_hero(count(),warrior =true)>0"

scottbreak;48144 wrote:
I saw that they are running the Golakka Crawlers…

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#23 Posted : Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:40:54 AM(UTC)
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NightlyKnight;48150 wrote:
In the files that he has provided the bot is going to concede if he is at 10 or more mana, and the enemy have 25 or more HP.


So we don't need to set any more autoconcede options than the one that is in json file?
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I have been working on a mulligan list for mid hunter.

It is still a WIP but i'm getting promising results with it sitting at 71% win rate currently.

I will be working on combos, conceded and global values too over the next few days depending on time.

If anyone is interested in it give me a message and I will send you it when I am at home.

EDIT:

This has been tested in ranked EU by the way.
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