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The Mech Mage Deck that has 85% win rate- LOW COST - A LOT OF IMAGES TO EXPLAIN
smaster8
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:41:26 PM(UTC)
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ok, so after editing the deck in my last post a little more I was able to achieve a 5-0 win streak in a custom. I believe this deck costs aproximately 1300 dust, but I still have to total the cost. One suggestion for the bot AI would be to attack first before playing cards if health <=15, the problem with the fireball not being played occurred again while I was watching my deck win. Even though we had lethal with fireball, the bot played several cards first, and while we won from attacking face, it still would have been simpler to use the fireball on the 13 hp rogue. Also, and most importantly, the AI does not recognize summoning portal as an effective card to play. I have not once seen the AI play it, and instead have had to play it myself when watching the bot. (I watch the bot to check for potential improvements, but obviously let it do its thing at night).
*EDIT* silverfish.dll fixed that problem-
Well that is off topic for this forum, but I also have information regarding the mech mage deck. The deck is currently 6-0 on my reset statistics, playing un-ranked. The AI handles the mechs very well, and i have the decklist ready for viewing;
7-0 win streak & deck build for casual. While typing this I won 2 more times hahah.

WON ON TURN 3
http://i.imgur.com/NSqjGJw.jpg


LINKS TO WHAT YOUR BOARD WILL LOOK LIKE
http://i.imgur.com/M3wJuZ0.jpg - opponent resigned next turn
http://i.imgur.com/AWAZzbf.jpg - same opponent as next picture
http://i.imgur.com/ujUE7K4.jpg - opponent resigned next turn
http://i.imgur.com/SIgPZf4.jpg - starting hand
http://i.imgur.com/XZmR5NP.jpg - after swap
http://i.imgur.com/czBopIG.jpg - early game
http://i.imgur.com/FEX16MD.jpg - winning a mage v mage game (same opponent as last three links)


THIS IS THE DECK BUILD LINK
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/...cost-extremely-effective






A cost effective deck for you guys- and this time with the actual build
*edit*
newest version 13 wins-1 loss





CURRENT DECK I AM TESTING





PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS DECK IS ENTIRELY BOT OPERATED
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served24
#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 31, 2014 2:50:12 AM(UTC)
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How does this deck fair in ranked? And which deck rule set are you using? Also, if you can include your bot power settings (i.e how long you have the bot to calculate the best turn 40000-80000)?
smaster8
#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:11:04 AM(UTC)
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served24;22178 wrote:
How does this deck fair in ranked? And which deck rule set are you using? Also, if you can include your bot power settings (i.e how long you have the bot to calculate the best turn 40000-80000)?



I haven't tested in ranked much, but I won 3 times in a row putting me at rank 18. I run silverfish.dll which you can enable following this link:
http://www.hearthranger.com/for...en-API-SDK-released.aspx

I tested the bot with maxxed settings for the first 7 games I played, then switched to silverfish.dll- I saw little change.

Very consistent all day- the deck runs into trouble against stall decks but that varies, I've seen complete domination and faced agonizing defeats with this build vs the stall decks.
Test it out and see, the major cards you would have to buy would be the 2X GvG mage rare for the board sweep.
The rest of the mechs you should already own. :P


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pacefalm
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:32:28 AM(UTC)
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Good amount of death rattles and mechs in this deck, I'll give it a shot once I've got the dust to make the few cards I'm missing.

Cheers dude.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:27:42 PM(UTC)
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pacefalm;22180 wrote:
Good amount of death rattles and mechs in this deck, I'll give it a shot once I've got the dust to make the few cards I'm missing.

Cheers dude.



I will test out ranked today a little more, to see where the deck is at.
Mitry
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:04:15 PM(UTC)
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I have every card except of Duplicate (60% winrate) Its okay but, which card can be used instead of Duplicate?

Thanks, the best deck I tried in this forum!
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:17:08 PM(UTC)
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Mitry;22200 wrote:
I have every card except of Duplicate (60% winrate) Its okay but, which card can be used instead of Duplicate?

Thanks, the best deck I tried in this forum!


Thanks for trying out my deck! Now to answer your question-

hmmmm, duplicate is super great because of the goblin blastmage, goblin blast mage obviously being the core of the deck, its great if you can have 4 in one game. I reccomend trying to get duplicate asap, but for now put in an extra unstable portal or cogmaster

http://www.hearthpwn.com...ely-effective-1020-dust

This is my current deck with my guidelines ect. I plan on building a custom deck rules for this deck but not for a while.
Sekkusu
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 31, 2014 8:03:27 PM(UTC)
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I'm hovering around 55% win rate with this deck. Are you using the default deck rule or the control one?
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 31, 2014 8:42:29 PM(UTC)
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Sekkusu;22204 wrote:
I'm hovering around 55% win rate with this deck. Are you using the default deck rule or the control one?

I made a few changes for the deck which help me in ranked, but I do not bot ranked often. Currently i managed to jump from rank 18 to rank 15 in a day, and I maxed out the gold rewards last night playing casual. The deck is noticeably better when I play it, but i maintained a 74% win rate overnight- I forgot to screen shot it my mistake. If you use silverfish.dll it will ignore your deck rules, but I am currently working on crafting my own custom rule set to share.

the deck is not a control deck, a little bit of a rush deck tbh, but I use silverfish.dll whish I advise you to do aswell, otherwise max out the settings and use default
Nicoline
#11 Posted : Wednesday, December 31, 2014 11:19:32 PM(UTC)
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thanks dude. this deck rocks!

p.s. Hey dude, you might want to edit your screenshots in hearthpwn. the bots logo is shown below. you might get ban for it ;)
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#12 Posted : Thursday, January 1, 2015 12:24:33 AM(UTC)
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Nicoline;22209 wrote:
thanks dude. this deck rocks!

p.s. Hey dude, you might want to edit your screenshots in hearthpwn. the bots logo is shown below. you might get ban for it ;)



thanks a ton for the heads-up, I removed the pictures- btw I hit rank 14 with this deck today, I was 18 this morning, I'll keep working on it.
proof of rank 14
http://i.imgur.com/uzxh2Wk.jpg
Nicoline
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 1, 2015 8:52:34 AM(UTC)
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no problem. looking forward for the custom deck rule.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, January 1, 2015 11:57:12 AM(UTC)
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one thing i've noticed is that the bot tends to work very well in decks that don't use smart combos (auchenai+circle etc). The more creatures you have the better so sticking deathrathles in it makes wonders. Mechs have a strong synergy between them and you don't rly need a specific combo to make it work
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hi i have just test this meca deck and is just great i have 9/1 90%rate








smaster8
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paulgetbig;22217 wrote:
one thing i've noticed is that the bot tends to work very well in decks that don't use smart combos (auchenai+circle etc). The more creatures you have the better so sticking deathrathles in it makes wonders. Mechs have a strong synergy between them and you don't rly need a specific combo to make it work


yep, that was the thought process I had when thinking of what cheap deck I could make, and this deck worked great. I hit rank 13 right before season end yesterday.
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bozoweed;22220 wrote:
hi i have just test this meca deck and is just great i have 9/1 90%rate











yeah it really works :p
Chicken
#18 Posted : Thursday, January 1, 2015 6:44:22 PM(UTC)
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can u like screenshot all of the task, i dont get which "DeckRuleFile" i should take. Im running the Deafault
and get an average winrate of ~ 60%
Works fine until now(with 1 missing card)


thanks and greetz Chicken
smaster8
#19 Posted : Thursday, January 1, 2015 6:54:24 PM(UTC)
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Chicken;22225 wrote:
can u like screenshot all of the task, i dont get which "DeckRuleFile" i should take. Im running the Deafault
and get an average winrate of ~ 60%
Works fine until now(with 1 missing card)


thanks and greetz Chicken



http://www.hearthranger....n-API-SDK-released.aspx

follow this link to the forum where silverfish.dll is explained. Silverfish.dll is the best AI, so make sure to enable it. Your screen will look like this:

NOTE: silverfish.dll ignores deck rule sets

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#20 Posted : Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:43:09 PM(UTC)

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Unstable Portal is such a fun card. I got two legendaries.

Do you think other cards are okay with this deck to make the win rate higher?
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#22 Posted : Friday, January 2, 2015 12:15:08 PM(UTC)
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Gave it a try can't say I had the same luck.
Using silverfish and both max calculate functions maxed.



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