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Juebar
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:05:06 PM(UTC)

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Hi all!
I am a member for a long time now - and I love how the bot is playing HS.

I know the decks I create.
I know the mulligan I should use.
I read all the sample or I check older "complete" Decks (with mulligan/config aso.) to get an idea of how it is working.

What I aim for is:
- getting able to build configs and mulligans around specified decks in order to make a good deck become even better.

What I search for is:
- someone or a group, which would help/answer an discuss some files I created - in order to find logical errors and mistakes.

What is the "pro"?
- the result would be a better deck for all of us - more success - more fun.


- What do you think about this idea?
- If anyone has some hints on how to get a start with mulligan/config/ combos. I would be glad to get a comment or a PM.

J.
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Traukor
#2 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 2:22:49 AM(UTC)
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I'm 100% positive for learning and exchange how to make config file for the bot
I have currently 2 deck playing (shaman control 30% win in 50/70 game with no config and war bomb not tested yet but make some obvious bad play)
and i really want to make some file myself for that
I have some config for old deck that i somehow enderstand and in the same time don't ...
If your eyes sting from my bad english i'm really sorry about that :D



xczsonn
#3 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 5:02:59 AM(UTC)
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please share configs.. man
ReQuiem222
#4 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 6:57:14 AM(UTC)

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xczsonn;58596 wrote:
please share configs.. man



Please please please.... lol
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#5 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 6:05:59 PM(UTC)

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so...lets start this?
my english isnt good but we can try it :P

rush deck is maybe the best for the bot atm:


### Token-Druide
# Class: Druid
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Acornbearer
# 2x (2) Crystalsong Portal
# 2x (2) Dreamway Guardians
# 2x (2) EVIL Cable Rat
# 1x (2) Keeper Stalladris
# 2x (2) Power of the Wild
# 2x (2) Wrath
# 2x (3) Blessing of the Ancients
# 2x (3) Landscaping
# 2x (3) Savage Roar
# 1x (4) Archmage Vargoth
# 2x (4) Mark of the Loa
# 2x (4) Soul of the Forest
# 2x (4) Swipe
# 2x (4) Wispering Woods
# 2x (8) The Forest's Aid
#
AAECAZICAtaZA8mcAw5A/QL3A+YFxAbX7wLf+wL6hgO0kQPDlAPFlAPOlAPKnAPTnAMA
#


- Global HS-Replay Winrate: 61 % at rank 10 - Legend
- Winrate with the bot atm: 32 % ... 17 win / 36 loose

- 32 % Winrate = with Vision AI aggro config

- now i copied the default vision config and let the bot run with this and not aggro one.
- at the moment no extra mulligan

i dont know how to write the mulligan but i have to learn it :)

my goal = Legend only with the bot + share it here

and guys...no pm please, just write it here, share it with the forum


edit: used default config..at the moment 5 games with 5 wins, just luck maybe, lets try the next hours

edit2: now 39 % winrate, damn
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Zug
#6 Posted : Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:53:17 AM(UTC)
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First attempt. https://www.dropbox.com/...5wdJiK2gDhdctLt4Ca?dl=0

This is the Secretdin I have been patching together. It's a learn as you go adventure.

edit

was working on until standard reset.

editedit

Thanks to everyone who ever uploaded configs/etc btw.
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Juebar
#7 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 6:28:34 AM(UTC)

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Hey guys,
ok. here is the deck which I have to most felt success at the moment.

### Tempo Rogue
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Preparation
# 2x (1) Argent Squire
# 2x (1) Deadly Poison
# 2x (1) Southsea Deckhand
# 2x (2) Eviscerate
# 2x (2) Sap
# 1x (3) Edwin VanCleef
# 2x (3) EVIL Miscreant
# 2x (3) Hench-Clan Thug
# 2x (3) Raiding Party
# 2x (3) SI:7 Agent
# 2x (4) Dread Corsair
# 2x (4) Waggle Pick
# 1x (5) Captain Greenskin
# 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins
# 1x (5) Myra's Unstable Element
#
AAECAaIHBLICyAOvBOf6Ag20AcsDzQPUBfUF7gaIB90Ihgmm7wLVjAOPlwOJmwMA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net

What did I do? Why did I choose this?
As I see it, this deck performs well against a variety of other decks. The main goal was to top the bomb warrior. Another main reason is: it has good gameplay without any config files.

Mulligan
At the moment I do the mulligan by hand following a list. Doing this puts the winrate up to 60%+ without it has a winrate about 50%.

https://ibb.co/HFTDJfN

The next step would be to create a mulligan for the bot.

This is, where I need your help.

Perhaps someone can show me how to create the mulligan file (as example).

Thanks

P.
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ReQuiem222
#8 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 7:38:29 AM(UTC)

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yes, ur deck or this one:

### Mein Schurke
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Preparation
# 2x (1) Deadly Poison
# 2x (1) Southsea Deckhand
# 1x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 2x (2) Eviscerate
# 2x (2) Sap
# 1x (3) Edwin VanCleef
# 2x (3) EVIL Miscreant
# 2x (3) Hench-Clan Thug
# 2x (3) Raiding Party
# 2x (3) SI:7 Agent
# 2x (4) Dread Corsair
# 2x (4) Waggle Pick
# 1x (5) Captain Greenskin
# 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins
# 1x (5) Myra's Unstable Element
# 1x (6) Heistbaron Togwaggle
#
AAECAaIHBrICyAOvBIoH5/oCkpcDDLQBywPNA9QF7gaIB90Ihgmm7wLVjAOPlwOJmwMA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net



but can the bot use the right cards at the right time? idk, even without a mulligan

murloc shaman, midrange hunter, bomb warrior, control warrior and token druid = winrate about 30-39 % :/ reported already some misplays. Cant reach rank 5 with the bot atm.


thanks for this thread and your help :)
Juebar
#9 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:10:56 AM(UTC)

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Ok. Here is my very first Mulligan.json for my Tempo_Rogue:

I get an Error for line 30... can't see it:



{
"GameCardId":"Mulligan",
"ConfigComment":"These are the Mulligan rules for Tempo Rogue.",

"Mulligan":
{
"values":
[
{
"comment":"Always keep in hand...
Cards DROP1,
Raiding Partiy,
Edwin VanCleef,
EVIL Miscreant,
Preperation,
Backstab,
Argent Squire",
"mulligan":"DROP1,
TRL_124,
TRL_124+TRL_124,
EX1_613,
DAL_415,
DAL_415+DAL_415,
EX1_145,
EX1_145+EX1_145,
CS2_072,
CS2_072+CS2_072,
EX1_008,
EX1_008+EX1_008,
"condition":"*",
"value":"hold",
},

{
"comment": "discard all cards not listed as hold",
"mulligan":"*",
"condition": "*",
"value":"discard",
}
],

},
}


Does anyone see an error?

J.
ReQuiem222
#12 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:59:37 AM(UTC)

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nope :/ always "load error" here too
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#10 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 1:43:28 PM(UTC)

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Juebar;58618 wrote:
Ok. Here is my very first Mulligan.json for my Tempo_Rogue:

I get an Error for line 30... can't see it:



{
"GameCardId":"Mulligan",
"ConfigComment":"These are the Mulligan rules for Tempo Rogue.",

"Mulligan":
{
"values":
[
{
"comment":"Always keep in hand...
Cards DROP1,
Raiding Partiy,
Edwin VanCleef,
EVIL Miscreant,
Preperation,
Backstab,
Argent Squire",
"mulligan":"DROP1,
TRL_124,
TRL_124+TRL_124,
EX1_613,
DAL_415,
DAL_415+DAL_415,
EX1_145,
EX1_145+EX1_145,
CS2_072,
CS2_072+CS2_072,
EX1_008,
EX1_008+EX1_008,
"condition":"*",
"value":"hold",
},

{
"comment": "discard all cards not listed as hold",
"mulligan":"*",
"condition": "*",
"value":"discard",
}
],

},
}


Does anyone see an error?

J.


You are missing a " at the end of the line before the ,

EX1_008+EX1_008, -> EX1_008+EX1_008",
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ReQuiem222
#13 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 2:26:30 PM(UTC)

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mmh thats not line 30 but no problems anymore :D
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#14 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 4:03:40 PM(UTC)

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ReQuiem222;58622 wrote:
mmh thats not line 30 but no problems anymore :D


Well that's how a code interpreter works.. It reads until it finds something it doesn't understand.
So when it's on line 30 and reads the " that was missing on line 29. Then it expects it to be followed by a ,
But when it finds a 'c' instead. It throws an error... So no, the error is on line 29. But the error isn't noticed until line 30.
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Juebar
#11 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2019 1:55:53 PM(UTC)

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BongoBengt;58621 wrote:
You are missing a " at the end of the line before the ,

EX1_008+EX1_008, -> EX1_008+EX1_008",


Must have been blind...

THANKS @BongoBengt !

J.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2019 1:16:43 PM(UTC)

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anyone got config/mulligan for any of these decks? or a rank 5 deck atm?
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:53:06 PM(UTC)
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@Juebar can you share the mulligan file you made ? i can't seem to make it work via the code you posted.
Juebar
#17 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2019 2:03:55 PM(UTC)

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{
"GameCardId":"Mulligan",
"ConfigComment":"These are the Mulligan rules for Tempo Rogue.",

"Mulligan":
{
"values":
[
{
"comment":"Always keep in hand...
Cards DROP1,
Raiding Party,
Edwin VanCleef,
EVIL Miscreant,
Preperation,
Backstab,
Argent Squire",
"mulligan":"DROP1,
TRL_124,
TRL_124+TRL_124,
EX1_613,
DAL_415,
DAL_415+DAL_415,
EX1_145,
EX1_145+EX1_145,
CS2_072,
CS2_072+CS2_072,
EX1_008,
EX1_008+EX1_008",
"condition":"*",
"value":"hold",
},

{
"comment": "discard all cards not listed as hold",
"mulligan":"*",
"condition": "*",
"value":"discard",
}
],

},
}
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