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kamil234
#1 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2018 3:43:13 PM(UTC)

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Very rough first config.
It uses the Val'anyr version of the deck.

It correctly recognizes paladin 1 mana hero power.

Didn't create config for all cards yet, or combo (equality + conc, or hero power + tarim, etc)

Use in casual and report misplays. I only tested it a few games today since i already reached 100 gold cap. So far, it is 17-0 in my test, but still lots of misplays.


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Even Paladin 0.3 - 5/16/2018


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Things that definitely need work so far:

0. Hero power might need slight adjustment, when going second, bot will often coin + 2 drop, instead of hero power. Maybe fine in some cases, i haven't played even paladin enough to know for sure. It can also give some negative value to 2 drops on turn 1 instead. Maybe just give knife juggler more priority vs other drops?
1. Adjust priority and playability of Knife Juggler
2. Adjust values for Truesilver and Val'anyr
3. Play around with value for consecrate (it seems bot doesnt like to play consecrate even if there is < 2 minions with >=2 health. *Edit: created file for consecrate, maybe it will help*


If you see anything wrong with the bonuses i adjusted (maybe used wrong key word?) let me know. It is my first config.
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doniel1234 on 5/14/2018(UTC), Hellscreamgold on 5/15/2018(UTC), hj007s on 5/15/2018(UTC), Ailma on 5/17/2018(UTC)
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:42:27 PM(UTC)

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kamil234;56294 wrote:
Very rough first config.
It uses the Val'anyr version of the deck.

It correctly recognizes paladin 1 mana hero power.

Didn't create config for all cards yet, or combo (equality + conc, or hero power + tarim, etc)

Use in casual and report misplays. I only tested it a few games today since i already reached 100 gold cap. So far, it is 17-0 in my test, but still lots of misplays.


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Even Paladin 0.2 - 5/15/2018

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Things that definitely need work so far:

0. Hero power might need slight adjustment, when going second, bot will often coin + 2 drop, instead of hero power. Maybe fine in some cases, i haven't played even paladin enough to know for sure. It can also give some negative value to 2 drops on turn 1 instead. Maybe just give knife juggler more priority vs other drops?
1. Adjust priority and playability of Knife Juggler
2. Adjust values for Truesilver and Val'anyr
3. Play around with value for consecrate (it seems bot doesnt like to play consecrate even if there is < 2 minions with >=2 health. *Edit: created file for consecrate, maybe it will help*


If you see anything wrong with the bonuses i adjusted (maybe used wrong key word?) let me know. It is my first config.


Thanks Kamil. I'll grab it and have my system run it through casual for a while today and report back with results.
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hj007s
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:53:18 PM(UTC)
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Greetings from China for your sharing！！！
感谢！！！感谢！！！
Thank you !!!
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kamil234
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:42:46 PM(UTC)

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Soon this deck will be useless because CtA is getting nerfed to 5 mana, so enjoy while it lasts. I guess i will make tempo mage later.
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Hellscreamgold
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:12:19 PM(UTC)

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Been running your config in casual most of the afternoon. Concede after win. No other concede options set.



Will let it keep running overnight. I'm recording my games too so I can go back and look for misplays later.
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Hellscreamgold
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:14:22 PM(UTC)

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kamil234;56309 wrote:
Soon this deck will be useless because CtA is getting nerfed to 5 mana, so enjoy while it lasts. I guess i will make tempo mage later.

I think the following decks will become popular after the nerfs:

Murloc Pally (will still play C2A at 5cc)
Control Pally (will still play C2A at 5cc)
Tempo Mage
Taunt Druid
Quest Even Warrior
Recruit Warrior
Control Warrior
Zoo Warlock
X Priest (control, combo)
Token Druid
Odd Rogue
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kamil234
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:00:13 PM(UTC)

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Hellscreamgold;56313 wrote:
Been running your config in casual most of the afternoon. Concede after win. No other concede options set.



Will let it keep running overnight. I'm recording my games too so I can go back and look for misplays later.


Are you actually recording the games as a video file? or the review files from the bot? You may want to check if you find yourself roping alot. I find it interesting we both had same amount of games played, but your game time is over 30% longer. My only concede option is also "concede if last game won". I guess <40 games is not that significant, but still 30% time is alot
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:33:17 PM(UTC)
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Does this do well on ranked?
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 2:58:37 AM(UTC)
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MichaelRLaberge;56321 wrote:
Does this do well on ranked?


typical question of a user of this bot.

Maybe try it and share results?
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fox503
#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:01:14 AM(UTC)
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[VICPU]
CPUNumber=6
ThreadPerCPU=8
CriticalWaitTime=1000
CalcMaxDepth=10
[BOT]
MaxMemoryUsage=4096
AlwaysSyncBoard=true

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Nothing special but I work on Laptop i5-2410M@ 2,30 Ghz , 8,00 GB

or maybe I have something bad in my bot ini ?

PS. Pozdrawiam Kamil, dobra robota.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:29:24 AM(UTC)

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kamil234;56315 wrote:
Are you actually recording the games as a video file? or the review files from the bot? You may want to check if you find yourself roping alot. I find it interesting we both had same amount of games played, but your game time is over 30% longer. My only concede option is also "concede if last game won". I guess <40 games is not that significant, but still 30% time is alot

No - Just using a game tracker to keep track of the games. Will have to see if I rope a lot. From times where I watch the games, doesn't seem to rope much.

After running overnight:



Here's my bot settings:

[VICPU]
CPUNumber=8
ThreadPerCPU=16
CriticalWaitTime=4000
CalcMaxDepth=50
[BOT]
MaxMemoryUsage=4096
AlwaysSyncBoard=true
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Ailma
#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:49:38 AM(UTC)

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Hellscreamgold;56330 wrote:
No - Just using a game tracker to keep track of the games. Will have to see if I rope a lot. From times where I watch the games, doesn't seem to rope much.

After running overnight:



Here's my bot settings:

[VICPU]
CPUNumber=8
ThreadPerCPU=16
CriticalWaitTime=4000
CalcMaxDepth=50
[BOT]
MaxMemoryUsage=4096
AlwaysSyncBoard=true




Casual + concede if last game won?
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kamil234
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:16:50 AM(UTC)

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Hellscreamgold;56330 wrote:
No - Just using a game tracker to keep track of the games. Will have to see if I rope a lot. From times where I watch the games, doesn't seem to rope much.

After running overnight:



Here's my bot settings:

[VICPU]
CPUNumber=8
ThreadPerCPU=16
CriticalWaitTime=4000
CalcMaxDepth=50
[BOT]
MaxMemoryUsage=4096
AlwaysSyncBoard=true


Wow. What CPU are you running? 128 threads is double of what the bot uses by default. Also Maxdepth 50 /Critical wait time 40 seconds is alot, i feel like it would rope alot on turns where it has to recalculate board state in the middle of the turn?

@fox503 Dzieki :) It is casual concede?
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kamil234
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:51:31 AM(UTC)

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Just updated the config. Also testing it in ranked right now. Starting R10 0 stars.

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0.3
Improved Knife Juggler Logic (Thanks, Ailma)
Greatly improved Mulligan Rules
Greatly boosted value of coin to test for counterspell vs mage before playing Call to Arms
Improved Consecration values vs many low health minions
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kamil234
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 6:19:24 PM(UTC)

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tested in ranked today. Went from R10 0 stars-> R8 0 stars.

Current WR - 53.4% (23W-21L)

Alot of misplays around equality. If someone can write some equality logic, it would help. I saw alot of misplays with either using equality stupidly, or not using equality when it should.

With alot of games, this deck can probably reach rank5 (...before the nerfs..?).
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Ailma
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 7:08:19 PM(UTC)

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kamil234;56343 wrote:
tested in ranked today. Went from R10 0 stars-> R8 0 stars.

Current WR - 53.4% (23W-21L)

Alot of misplays around equality. If someone can write some equality logic, it would help. I saw alot of misplays with either using equality stupidly, or not using equality when it should.

With alot of games, this deck can probably reach rank5 (...before the nerfs..?).




we'll have to test equality, that deck uses a powerful combo of equality + Avenging Wrath/ consecration
Maybe go that way?
Try to predefine those situations?


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kamil234
#21 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 7:14:25 PM(UTC)

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Ailma;56346 wrote:
we'll have to test equality, that deck uses a powerful combo of equality + Avenging Wrath/ consecration
Maybe go that way?
Try to predefine those situations?


if I can help you in something tell me .............


I will take a look at some equality combos later. Usually, equality/consecrate is fine. But stuff like equality/avenging wrath, or equality / knife juggler synergy, doesn't work too well.

I also substituted a few cards, I will play test it a couple hours and see how it goes.

I also noticed bot doesn't seem to recognize that when you equality an enraged minion, the enrage goes away. I'll report bug later.
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kamil234
#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:51:31 PM(UTC)

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Ailma;56346 wrote:
we'll have to test equality, that deck uses a powerful combo of equality + Avenging Wrath/ consecration
Maybe go that way?
Try to predefine those situations?


if I can help you in something tell me .............


Ailma, what do you think of this for equality?

"comment":"If opponent has big board with lots of health, and we have equality + concecrate (CS2_093) and enough mana, use it.",
"condition":"opp_minions(count(),health >= 3) > 2 AND my_hand(count(),cardid = CS2_093) > 0 AND my_hero(count(),mana => 6) > 0",
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Ailma
#20 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:07:09 AM(UTC)

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kamil234;56349 wrote:
Ailma, what do you think of this for equality?

"comment":"If opponent has big board with lots of health, and we have equality + concecrate (CS2_093) and enough mana, use it.",
"condition":"opp_minions(count(),health >= 3) > 2 AND my_hand(count(),cardid = CS2_093) > 0 AND my_hero(count(),mana => 6) > 0",




Yes, that's what I meant.
You can write the same thing for equality + Avenging Wrath (aggressive cleaning)
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#13 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:14:59 AM(UTC)
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Cloud;56322 wrote:
typical question of a user of this bot.

Maybe try it and share results?

Try it yourself and share the results?
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